Oblivion talk:Oblivion/Archive 4

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travelling npcs

Is there a list of NPCs who have periodic travel packages in their AI and move between towns?24.31.156.165 14:04, 30 November 2008 (EST)

The countess of Leyawiin and Quill Weave are the two I know, I'm not sure where the Countess goes but I know Quill Weave will eventually go to every city. Quill Weave is easy to catch up with because she sneaks when travelling. — Unsigned comment by 75.153.198.175 (talk) on 30 December 2008

the black horse courrier person i see her all the time when traveling on the roads but never on my bandit runs =( wood elf 360 :o bad name i know but there was nothing else but mybe bosmer Wood elf 360 15:47, 31 December 2008 (EST)

This isn't the place to start listing these. The long-delayed Oblivion NPC Redesign Project will deal with this in due course. Please don't add any others. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 15:56, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Ahhh, glad I read this in time - I was about to add another. --Snow 17:17, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

I made a page for these questions specifically: Traveling People . Note that some of the times aren't correct yet, as most of them leave and begin the return at midnight for some reason. So we still have to check them, but it should be a good starting point for your question.Theviking 18:39, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

Proposed Article: Swimming

Information on swimming speed compared to running speed, the mechanics of drowning damage, and the forumla to determine how much "air" a character has should be of some interest. What determines which items float and which items sink? An arbitrary value, or a formula based on weight? —Dark Spark 01:30, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Swimming speed is covered here. The other items would be useful though. The sink/float doesn't seem to be based on weight. Light items like spoons (weight 0.1) sink but folded cloth (weight 1.5) floats. I'm not sure a Swimming article is quite the place, but I can't think where it should all go right now. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 04:28, 1 January 2009 (EST)

Perhaps an article based on Water and how it affects things? --24.118.124.166 19:48, 15 January 2009 (EST)

The thing that baffles me the most is my view that a new character cannot hold their breath for long, but a higher-level character has a much larger air supply. If I only knew just what determined this factor, then the info can be included in that particular article (if it's determined by Fatigue, for example, then a mention in Fatigue may be in order). as well as having a detailed explanation of Water Damage— the damage inflicted by drowning cannot be resisted, for example, and I know that damage from lava exhibits the same characteristics. —Dark Spark 00:29, 17 January 2009 (EST)

There's a very brief discussion about that here. Anybody coming up with an answer will receive a cookie! –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:00, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Question about waiting

Sorry to ask this here, but I don't know where else to ask it...does anyone know a specific distance which monsters have to be within to prevent you from waiting or fast travelling? I need this information to find a Detect Life spell which will tell me which monsters are stopping me from waiting. 90.200.55.153 14:11, 13 February 2009 (EST)

I was under the impression it's not so much monsters in a certain radius as whether they're currently in a "notice" state, pursuing you as a hostile target. I can't prove that, though. Ketsuban 07:47, 21 February 2009 (EST)

It's definitely any creature or potentially hostile NPC. Even deer will stop you from waiting or using fast travel. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 07:57, 21 February 2009 (EST)

I don't think they have to notice you, Ketsuban. I've been prevented from waiting/fast traveling without being detected (I entered sneak mode). --Oblivion nerd 21:58, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Would the distance be the cell? I have never really encountered this problem. --Mr. Oblivion 00:09, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

typically when you try to sleep and there are enemies nearby it is just a simple thing of moving in one direction to get awayfrom an amimal. it is easy with the vamp skill hunters sight(life detect and night-eye 60 sec on self) because is if you see sign of life just move away from the spot, or kill whatever a monster may be. you dont need to become vampire as im sure there is other ways to get a similar spell. i believe that you can also still fast travel to any town or inn and rest there, if you can be back to where you need to be fast. Hope this helps165.234.130.6 13:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know the exact radius, but i'm pretty sure it's slightly less than 120 ft. While wearing the gray cowl of nocturnal, one can (faintly) detect all creatures within the 'enemies nearby' radius, and now and then some creatures outside it. At least, that is my experience.

--78.69.109.203 15:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure how far this is exactly (someone who can estimate distance better can hopefully figure it out) but the distance from the entrance of Fort Homestead (the part without stairs in it) to the far end of the fallen log pretty much in a straight line from there.TheAlbinoOrc 13:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

What you could do if you really wanted to know is create a number of different detect life spells at different ranges and see which one is closest then refine it ft by ft. — Unsigned comment by 91.110.85.169 (talk) on 11 February 2010, 14:09 UTC

Is there a 'oblivion PC-Joinable faction page?

So far I'm aware of: (Main Quest) Blades, (General/Guild Factions) -> Fighter, Mage, Arena, (Infamous-Guilds) Thief, Dark Brotherhood, (Quest Factions) Knights of the White Stallion, Order of Virtuous Blood, Knights of the Thorn, (Expansion Factions) Knights of the Nine, Court of Madness. (=11?)

Try this page. It lists all the factions you can join or are automatically enrolled in. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:05, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Format

Why do the bullets (for mods and tech support) on the main index use 2 spaces and the rest of the bullets are 1 space? Seems odd.. Dragonalumni 02:27, 18 February 2009 (EST)

They are listed under sub-sections; the others are not. --GuildKnight^Talk2me 02:51, 18 February 2009 (EST)

I have a problem.....

I just purchased Oblivion Game the year edition and didnt know u needed a harddrive to play Shiv. Isl. and Knights of the nine. I had the regular version before so how could i have known. What i want to know is,Is it worth it to buy a harddrive to play those expantions or should i just play the regular game? Thanks in advance. Rjo7124 15:28, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Is this on PC? And... I think it's worth having a hard drive for... Really anything at all. Yeah, I'd suggest buying one.

Chunk of Ham 16:01, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

No its for xbox 360, but ya there like 40 bucks on ebay — Unsigned comment by 24.131.190.56 (talk)

It's definitely worth it, as that isn't the HD's only purpose. --Oblivion nerd 18:55, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Music, more room, everything and Thanks mate — Unsigned comment by Rjo7124 (talk • contribs)

It's listed on the GOTY box that a HD is needed for the expansions.

wtf!?

Nephele said this in one of her messages she sent to me, "It's up to you what race you want to play, and it's a decision that doesn't necessary have anything to do with what skills you enjoy using." and actually it does matter what skills u like because certian races are better at doing things like blade rather than blunt, and i was just wondering what race is best fit for having these skills,: blade, sneak, acrobatics,alchemy, light armor, illusion, destruction, security, destruction. Any combination of the previous skills is fine i just want to know what race is best fit for those skills. The New Republic! Rjo7124 16:29, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Argonian would probably be best, but then again it doesn't really matter since they're only small skill bonuses. Attributes and powers are more important than stat boosts in my opinion.--81.156.107.197 16:33, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Ya but what race would be best for the attributes and skill bonuses for a thief/mage type of person.(in your opinion)

The New Republic! Rjo7124 16:35, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

I would suggest that you take a look at all of the Races pages and see which race has the best bonuses in the skills you want. Then you can draw up a table and find out which one to play with. --SerCenKing 16:40, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Alright thanks SerCenKing

The New RepublicRjo7124 16:52, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Races would be a good place to start to see what perks each race has - specifically the table provided on that page for that purpose - and which would fit with your desired playing style. No one can tell you what you'll enjoy. --GuildKnight^Talk2me 16:53, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Redguard is a good race, quote "the most naturally talented warriors in all of tamerial" and also "seem to be born for battle"-Rasdella, lvl 18 (for now), Redguard

The point of that comment though is that though some races have it easier in some areas, ANY race can be an effective warrior or mage or rogue if you play them properly. Brodras doesnt like people thinking otherwise. "Not all wood elves sneak around and fight with bows, im as tough as any orc" (paraphrased from memory) Kiutu

Bug

My game seems to be the buggiest game in existence...yes,I have ANOTHER bug. This time,all the creatures and people of Cyrodiil have suddenly lost their ability to hurt me. Their attacks have no effect on me,just like if I had 100% Resist Normal Weapons,as silver and magical weapons still affect me.Everything else has no effect.My character has only 50% Resist Normal Weapons-effect(from a mod).Please help me,as this starts to get REALLY annoying :(. --Neekerisanni123 09:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I think that you have stumbled across the Resist bug. have you been using iron or steel weapons? — Unsigned comment by 124.190.136.187 (talk) on 29 May 2009

Did you have anything that you were wearing and was automatically taken off? (Things that can do this are being sent to jail, Quest Items, etc.) — Unsigned comment by 173.29.237.59 (talk) on 18 June 2009

This can happen if you are on PC and use the ghost command. Go to console commands (~) have 3rd person on, select your character and type setghost 0. If the "ghost" is active, you can take damage but npc/creature attacks go through you, as do enviro damage and spells. This does not prevent Sheogorath's Punishment( Attacking Sheogorath and being teleported 50000ft above punishment point, as detailed on Sheogorath's page), and other scripted deaths, for instance you cannot prevent the emperor from being killed. Haskill from SI is "ghosted". Defender of Lainlyn 04:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

STUCK

hey i just did the part of the main quest where i got aid for bruma from evry source! and now when i talk to martin he is stil reading the book and jaufre hasnt got anything to say!

what should i do? — Unsigned comment by Warnocksteven89 (talk • contribs) on 8 April 2009

The Allies for Bruma quest isn't a central part of the main quest - it's optional. You'll also have been given another quest - possibly Blood of the Divines. Check this page and see which of the quests listed are still active in your journal. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 13:19, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Timeline

Is there a place where i can find the year of the Emporers death? because i can't seem to find i't on the site.Dark Waters 01:06, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Try this. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 01:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

If you go to Bruma after beating the main quest, there's a statue of year that says that you closed the Great Gate in 430, the same year the emperor dies.

Who ever wrote that last quote is about 3 years off the timeline, The game starts in the year 433.— Unsigned comment by 91.110.85.169 (talk) on 11 February 2010

I cant look around with the right anolog stick

I bought a phillips controller and I cant change look from the mouse to the right analog stick please help

Hmm, there where a few tips here [1]. Not sure if these tips will work, but it's worth a try.--Willyhead^/t 15:39, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

attribute increase

if i get the max felldew effect while my attributes arent 100 and then lvl til they r 100 will they be 115 after i complete the quest?

i think they should be 100 for more leveling up i think

quick leveling up in skills

does anyone know how to level up in the skills like destruction quickly

Try Oblivion:Destruction or Oblivion:Increasing_Skills. Both of those pages contain plenty of information about skills and leveling. If you have questions about leveling skills, one of those pages would probably be a more appropriate place to ask ;). –Eshe^talk 01:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Alternative ending?

When you rescue Martin and take him to Weynon Priory...its under attack and the Amulet is gone. But this all could has been resolved if Jauffre didnt take the amulet off me...which means they attacked me instead....defeating them, I then took Martin to the Temple of The One and lit the dragonfires. Any comments? -Theman100 07:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it an alternate ending. If everything went right from the start it wouldn't be much of a game/story. --Timenn-<talk> 13:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Because it would happen all over again with Martin. Mara's Incarnate 04:35, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Investing in the shops....

So, I know that you can invest in the shops... but I have no idea how I go about doing that. Let me know please.... that would be awesome. Thanks. -Hilary A.70.8.30.76 20:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

You need a certain level of ability. See this. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 20:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Birthsign and race problem

Hi!

I made a Breton and I chose the mage birthsign, each giving a bonus of 50 magika. Then, I maxed my intelligence (100)so I got the 200 magika out of my intelligence + 50 (Breton) + 50 (Mage) right? I had 300 magika in total. I played unttil I got level 29. Then I realized I only had 200 magika... It's like my birthsign and race bonus are gone... I looked in the section on the right in the spells tab (the current effects on the caracter) and my race bonus is not there and my birthsing bonus is not there. They are gone... Is there a way to get them back? I'm playing XBOX 360 so I can't use console commands. And no, I have no drain effects or diseases, I prayed at an altar and nothing did. Please help me!

Thanks — Unsigned comment by 24.226.229.134 (talk) on 22 July 2009

• • Edit : I also lost my 50% resist magika racial bonus — Unsigned comment by 24.226.229.134 (talk) on 23 July 2009

I recently completed a quest for the Sanguine Shrine and every since my magicka has decreased by 100 points and is currently 200 were as it was 300 before, I haven't got no illnesses or spells on me, and attributes are perfectly normal, why has it just dropped by 100 points without reason? — Unsigned comment by 86.155.129.100 (talk) on 24 July 2009

I recently advanced to level 30 and my magicka reduced from 300 to 200 and I have no Attribute changes or illnesses what's happened? — Unsigned comment by 86.155.129.100 (talk) on 24 July 2009

I did this quest too... so somehow doing the sanguine quest remove the racial and birthsing bonus of the character... Does anyone know a way to fix this (without the console) If there was a glitch to permanently give 50% resist magic and 100 magika, I could use it... Thanks — Unsigned comment by 24.226.229.134 (talk) on 24 July 2009

Stop pretending to be different people. If nobody replies, it means nobody knows the answer. Posting the same question several times isn't going to get a result. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 20:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Huh? I only posted first and 4th comment... Two other people have the same problem... — Unsigned comment by 24.226.229.134 (talk) on 25 July 2009

I didn't just mean you. The fact that you saw two people where there was only one rather makes my point. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

If you resist arrest doing Sanguine's quest and you are in the middle of Molag Bal's quest or have a mod which has permanent effects of lifesaving spells or have a morrowind copy mod with a divine/almsivi intervention spell, if you are killed instead of being teleported, you will still be teleported but will lose all vampirism abilities birthsigns spells. Defender of Lainlyn 04:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Orc + Dark Elf

Under character information, it says "What do you get if you cross an Orc with a Dark Elf?" I always thought this kinda sounded misleading, like it was possible to have a two different races in character creation. I actually did think it was possible when I first started using the site, and it was something I had missed out on. I'm not exactly sure what I'm getting at, but it just sounds as if it was possible, and it might be misleading to newer players/users of the site. I dunno, just a thought that's been bothering me when I look at the page. PinballWizard 23:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

True... it is misleading and im sure someone will probably change it soon --Tabloes 23:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreed and changed. –Elliot ^talk 02:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Leveling up

If i raise the difficulty of the game do i level up faster,and vise versa for lowering the difficulty.Im on the X box 360 version — Unsigned comment by NAGleader (talk • contribs) on 2 August 2009

Yes... but not for the reason you probably expect. If you play on a higher difficulty, you are likely to get hit more (boosting armor skills), use your weapons more (boosting blade/blunt/H2H) and use more spells (boosting magic skills). That means you're likely to increase ten major skills more quickly than on easier levels and so reach the point where you can level more quickly.

The difficulty level doesn't affect the number of skills you need to increase or the rate at which you gain skill experience though. See Oblivion:Leveling for more information. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

arrow of extrication

(moved to Oblivion talk:Arrow of Extrication#Arrow_of_Extrication)

this is actually a really good way of leveling up in any particular weapon class eg. when fighting the grand champion of the arena if you have completed the quest he asks of you then he will stand and let you kill him, its also good to bring magic scrolls that regenerate health on target to do this for as long as possible.

the main ingredient chest

Moved to The Main Ingredient talk page.

Standing High Elf Crouching Troll

I was going to the imperial city when i saw a troll satanding still with a high elf infront of it. And the high elf was standing staringt with his amrssideby side but when i lokked out them it said serch troll search??? does anybody know what that all about— Unsigned comment by Allgreto (talk • contribs) at 03:03 on 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you be more clear? What exactly is your problem? --Timenn-<talk> 08:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

This sounds like the troll stayed upright when it died instead falling like it should have, perhaps it fell on something ?

I have a problem too.

On my Cheydinhal Reccomendation Quest, i dropped the ring in the well because i did it before and learned that i didnt need it, but when i exited the well, went inside to talk to Deeston or whatever her name is, it didnt continue on with hte quest, then i returned to the well after doing other quests, and the body was gone, and i cant find the ring anywhere, and im a Nord so i cant stay under to look for it, i think it dissapeared with the body, any ideas?

(And its the Game of the Year Edition for Xbox 360)

~~helpz~~ — Unsigned comment by 24.151.235.142 (talk)

I'm afraid you're going to have to go back to an earlier save. You need to wait until you get the journal update saying you found the ring before you drop it. --Gaebrial 06:53, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Year by Lore

It would be nice if somewhere on the page for Oblivion and all the other games it gave the in-game year. I've come here looking for this information several times over the last year or two, ever once in awhile I just wander what the difference by year is between the games. With Oblivion it's easy to figure out because of the link to Uriel Septim's page in the first paragraph, but I didn't see anything useful on the other pages. And the date still isn't on this page. --Modred11 05:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe you are looking for this. Good luck reading! :) –Elliot ^talk 05:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, not really. I'm not really looking for a page so much as suggesting that the pages Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall, Arena, etc, all have their in-game date added to their page. I mean, they already have the Setting stating in what places they take place, it makes sense to also have the date (without which information the location really doesn't mean much). I'd be happy to add it myself if there's no objections or anything. --Modred11 02:09, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I have no objection, so feel free to add that to the tables. Something along the lines of Time Period or Year. –Elliot ^talk 02:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I just realized I can't edit the article, I can only view it's source. But what I'd like to add is Time Period: 3E 433 to the table just below the Setting information. --Modred11 22:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Aetheris, named after myth

Aetheris, and everything with aether in its name was named after the greek god, Aether. God of the upper air. I think this is a pretty interesting fact that the clever oblivion designers added into the game. Comments?--Arch-Mage Matt 01:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I recognize this is an old comment :P I just wanted to point out that there are many religios refrences in oblivion :P greek mythology can be considered a religion, but only one that children and a few other believe Mikeyboy52

Patch Problem

I once tried to download an Oblivion-only patch for my PC, and when it was installing, it said "File Not Found". I read that this occurs if you have Oblivion, and not the Shivering Isles, and you try to download the patch for SI and Oblivion. But I didn't have the Shivering Isles installed. Any help? Smart Kid 21:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I know this answer is a little delayed but you've probably downloaded the update for a different version of Oblivion, eg. UK, American etc. etc.

Disappearing NPC Bodies

Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Ten days after I finished the Corrupt Imperial Guard quest, I was attacked while sleeping in my Arch-Mage quarters. I killed him, and it's very useful to have a dead body hanging around to resurrect with the Staff Of Worms for training purposes.--75.155.231.62 07:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Just walk in the Quarters before the cell resets (every three days) as each time you enter, the timer for the cell resetting restarts.Volthawk 09:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--75.155.231.62 22:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Game of the Year not working!

I bought a brand new copy Oblivion: Game of the year edition and a new 360 elite. I installed the expansions, and beat the main quest from Oblivion, and all the faction quests. But I can't find the expansions anywhere in the game world. I never get the "Strange Door" update, the Prophet is never in Anvil. I tried re-installing the expansions, clearing my memory cache, re-setting the 360s clock, even buying a new Game of the Year edition, but they're never there! But, when I first come on the loading screen, where it says "press start" i get the "loading extra content" appear. WTF?!?!?! Does anyone know why? Even Xbox helpline and Bethesda doesn't know! — Unsigned comment by Draevan13 (talk • contribs) on 2 November 2009

If Bethesda doesn't know, I'd say your out of luck.--Kaito 21:42, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Let the disc autorun, go to datafiles and check all boxes. Defender of Lainlyn 04:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

He said 360, not PC. 86.137.230.235 03:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

2 possible solutions:Get a new xbox360, or just buy a ps3, the ps3 is so much better, at least the older ones are, the new ones suck (when it comes to hardware, appearance isnt that bad) Mikeyboy52 08:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Problem whit Display cases

Hi just woundering am I the only one having trubles whit display cases.

briefing The "normal" displays work just fine but the ones made by modding are not working at all (link for image below)

link

The problem. The problem is that i cant get item's inside to the display. there is an"invisible wall" that stops items on the level the door were before i opened them. I have used "remote manipulation" spell and tried to but the item in to the display but i just can't...

So am I doing someting so wrong or is it a bug whit all other players?

Please response soon.

A Litte Request by an anon

Someone add http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Must_Have_Mods to the Mods section, much more appropriate than the per-member/user list of external links to lists of mods http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Recommended_Mods

Recommended_Mods is a list of "according to me" mods, it would be fine if it wasn't such a MESS (such as it being a mostly meaningless list of names with external links, instead of being an actual [user:orientation] *mod\n *mod\n *mod\n *mod\n\n )

by 24.37.126.64 (UTC)tase @ 21:03, 15 December 2009

A Litte Request by ArgoniainBoy

hi guys just wondering is there a link to a website that tells you how to make lotr people Oblivion gotye thanks o and would like it if you got to this message asapcrai 16:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)ArgonianBoy

This wiki doesn't really focus on creating characters from other franchises within the game. I'd suggest using Google. --GK^Talk2me 03:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

well can anybody give me a real answer that is useless infocraiArgoniainBoy

How about trying a mod acronym and stop harassing Admins?--Corevette789 22:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

how bou i have it 4 the ps3188.141.15.110ArgoniainBoy

Mods are not usable on the PS3 or Xbox 360--Corevette789 22:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

A few are, but only because someone managed to hack the ps3 recently. so far there is only 2 mods that i know of: god mode (like what you can do with pc) and p4\N (you deal infinite damage, at least close enough :P while taking no damage)Mikeyboy52 08:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Time period?

Should it be added the game doesn't take place entirely in 3E 433? Even though that is the last year in the 3rd Era, the player can go farther, even into the 3E 340's. --Oblivion nerd 21:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I think it should, i have a guy who is currently in the year 3E 446. He also completed the main quests in the year 3E 439.

The time period is stated as 3E 433 because that is the only date that is guaranteed to be in everyone's game. The Oblivion Crisis happened in 3E 433 according to all canonical sources, so it seems the most appropriate date for this article. --GK^talk2me 17:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Plug-ins not working on new xbox 360

I recently got a new xbox for christmas, and I took my hard drive off my old xbox and put it on the new one. On the old xbox I downloaded several plug-ins, not including shivering isles and KoTN. The game loads the plug-ins and I can see them on my hard drive, but... I do not get the quest updates in the game. I also went to see where battlehorn castle is located and it was not there. what do I do?

Try putting the hardrive back on the old 360 and see if they're there. That's all I can think of. Sorry. --Oblivion nerd 23:31, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you connected the new console to the internet? This is just my theory, but I think it has to do with verifying that you're signed in to the profile that paid for the content. I've had lots of DLC content that I cannot access when I'm not connected to the internet, even though I verify that the content is on the HD. Just a thought, but it may be related. --GK^Talk2me 04:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Really Weird Potion Type

Hi I was just messing around with alchemy ingredients and when I added a Heart of Order together with a poisoned apple, the result was a potion with Jyggalag's favor for one second. I thought that you couldn't use the apples for alchemy, and I'm kind of confused now. Please respond.— Unsigned comment by 80.232.250.96 (talk) on 8 January 2010

Yes you can use them, it is explained here. --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 22:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

100% chameleon FAIL

I apologize. I searched and searched for the answer to no avail. My 100% chameleon (via enchanted items) seems to work absolutely everywhere and in every situation. . .except when I enter the Great Gate. I've tried unequip and re-equip. I've reloaded. I've tested in other oblivion planes and it works just fine. I can't figure out why the Great Gate screws me out of my fabulous invisibility.Redbarrettes 02:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Lots of daedra in the great gate are "enhanced" by the giant sigil stone; they have detect life 500ft, fortify sneak 100, and Warmth of Blood. See my new-to-be-made character page for explanation on Warmth of Blood. Defender of Lainlyn 05:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

That's a really good point! But, I'm only level 8 and it's just scamps and clanfear runts as soon as I enter the gate and even they can see me. Prior to doing the Defense of Bruma quest I got arrested while wearing all my invisibility stuff. This may have triggered the permanent effect glitch, but as I emerged from prison, the King of Miscarcand and his zombies were waiting for me and they could see me right away. I don't know. Something hinky definitely transpired. . .I mean,other people have been able to run the Great Gate with 100% invisibility, right? **sigh**70.253.82.73 16:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I have managed to do the Great Gate with only 80% Chameleon completely undetected. I have a feeling it is a glitch in your game or possibly a mod (I'm on PS3 so I can't check with any official of unofficial mods). --- Masterlocksmith 17:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

So, what exactly do you mean by not working do you still look invisible or do you look normal ?--TheAlbinoOrc 17:38, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm on the 360. I appear to be completely invisible, in third person there aren't even wavy lines to identify me. I went back to an earlier save (before being arrested) so maybe that will help. On the forum it was suggested that the Siege Crawler will always see you, no matter what and that it's not possible to "cheat" it. But scamps shouldn't be able to see me and lob fireballs at me :o(70.253.82.73 18:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

That in itself is rather odd since I've always been able to at least see a wavy outline of my character in-third person, I'd try talking to someone like Timenn or rpeh directly.--TheAlbinoOrc 21:40, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

It's not really as odd as it sounds. At 100% Chameleon it doesn't seem to show the wavy outline. I've just tested this myself and 100% Chameleon completely removed all image from my character. I can't imagine there'd be a wavy outline with more than 100%, but it could be possible.--- Masterlocksmith 21:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay I guess I just thought it had the same animation for all strengths of Chameleon.--TheAlbinoOrc 22:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

This may sound like a very stupid question, but here it goes. Did you enchanted your items with sigil stones and, how many items are you wearing with Chameleon? --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 22:30, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

(u/d) 100% chameleon isn't a panacea. If you hit a guard, they will still challenge you for arrest, for instance. I still don't know exactly what you mean that it "doesn't work" in the great gate quest, however. I've used it myself without any problems. Incidentally, 100% chameleon should leave you totally invisible in 3rd-person view - no wavy outline or anything. –rpeh •T•C•E• 22:44, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

To answer S'drassa's question I am wearing 8 items enchanted with common soul gems at 14% each (I'm not at a point where grand soul gems were available). After it didn't work the first time at the Great Gate I reloaded and initiated the battle in front of the gates. This time I stood way back, not fighting and staying out of the line of fire. A soon as the great gate opened I made a bee-line (in sneak mode, even) and went in. As soon as I'm in the Oblivion plane, my eye goes from transparent to gold and every creature sees me. I tried going out of sneak mode, moving out of sight and entering sneak mode again. . .didn't work. I should be able to run the whole quest without being in sneak mode at all if I have 100% invisibility. The only thing I could think to do was try the quest again from an earlier save game and enchant some new items.Redbarrettes 23:23, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, guess since rpeh has joined in that takes care of my earlier suggestion, as for what you said about Grand Soul Gems you should try the Mages Guild and the Mystic Emporium in the IC.--TheAlbinoOrc 00:46, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

(u/d)Went back and enchanted 5 new items with 20% chameleon and re-started the Defense of Bruma/Great Gate quest. . .worked perfectly. Thanks everyone! — Unsigned comment by Redbarrettes (talk • contribs) on 31 January 2010

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