Help talk:Editing Pages

Opening The GateEdit

hi everybody can anybody tell me how i can open the gate in silorn and finf Falkar — Unsigned comment by Miha (talk • contribs)

Question answered at the proper place. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•}

How to edit a large pageEdit

Is there a way to edit a large page (>50kB) in one go ? My browser currently seems to fail all the time. It can be done in smaller sections but this is a very lengthy process... Thanks, Adjego 16:06, 6 February 2008 (EST)

In theory you should just be able to click Edit and begin. In practice, we've been having problems with this recently. See here for more information. Which page is it you're trying to edit? –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 16:24, 6 February 2008 (EST)

I was changing the enchantment values on Morrowind:Item_Materials_and_Styles. Its about 55kB wiki-text and the server made difficulties in accepting the change. It took very long and the connection timed out. I tried several times during the past hours and it seemed to have worked since I was now able to see the changed page and a correct history of the page. I did not observe the blank page problem so far. I'm using Firefox. -- Adjego 17:59, 6 February 2008 (EST)

LinksEdit

The site says to add links, and also not to clutter them together. So my question is when I edit a page and in the same category/section it has multiple links to the same place, should I remove those or add them?. Ex. on the Stonewall Shields page, under Stonewall Shields, it has a link to "iron shield" twice, but not "steel shield". Again, should I take away the second link to "iron shield", or should I add it to "steel shield"? (as a general rule for all pages) Hikarou411 21:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Redundant links should always be removed, one link is enough per section. In the case of your example feel free to remove any redundant links you find, however, there is a link to steel shields ;) --SerCenKing ^Talk 09:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Hikarou411 05:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

when editors clashEdit

What happens if I'm editing a page and another editor has changed it after I started the edition but before I save.

would I get a warning before the page is saved? or would my last edit overwrite his, without me noticing?--Wizy 23:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

When you click "Save page", if someone has edited it while you were editing, you'll get a notice and a new edit page, this one with two edit boxes; one with that includes the page's most recent edit but not your revisions, and one below with the opposite. The upper one is the one that's saved, so you have to read through the upper box to make sure your edit is still appropriate and then cut it from the lower box and paste it into the upper. During discussions, the {{ec}} template can be used to help clarify confusion caused by the interrupted flow of conversation when this happens. --GK^talk2me 00:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed Revision to Help:Editing_Pages#Editing_a_Discussion_PageEdit

I propose that the section "Editing a Discussion Page" on the article, be amended to read as below. Please make suggested changes or add comments or questions below.

Editing a Discussion PageEdit

Every article page (sometimes simply called a "page") has a corresponding discussion page (more technically a sub-page or tab, and often called a "talk page"). On discussion pages, you can ask questions, make suggestions, or discuss corrections about the article or its subject matter.

To access a discussion page, click the "discussion" tab at the top of the main article (or at the top of any other "tab" or "sub-page" under the article). If the "discussion" tab is red, it has not yet been created; in this case, you are welcome to create one. To do so, click the red "discussion" tab, then give your comment or question a subject by typing it between two = symbols at the top of the page: e.g., "==Question about Xxxxxx==" (without quotes).

Below this subject or title, begin typing your comment or question.

When editing a talk page, follow the same steps used to edit a main article page; however, follow these guidelines when editing a talk page:

• Sign your message by typing --~~~~ or, equivalently, by clicking the signature button () when your cursor is at the end of your message. The button is located just above the editing window into which you type your remark. When you save the page, the site will automatically convert the four tildes (~~~~) into your username and the current time. You can see how this will appear by using the "Show preview" button that appears below the editing window.
• Start a new topic on an existing discussion page at the bottom of the page, beginning with a level two header identifying your subject; e.g., type "==Question about Quest Reward==" (without quotes).
  • You can alternatively start a new topic by clicking the "+" tab, (located to the right of the "edit" tab at the top of the discussion page). When you use this shortcut, a "Subject/headline" box will appear, into which you which should identify your topic; e.g., type "Question about Quest Reward" (without quotes).
    • Then type your comment below the subject/title.
• Add a reply, comment or question to an existing topic (section):
  • If yours is the second entry, indent it by typing a colon (:) prior to your text; for example, ":The answer to your question is ...." (without quotes).
  • If there is already more than one entry, add yours below the bottom entry, and indent it one level further to the right than that entry. You can do this by typing the number of colons that precede the bottom entry plus one more colon; for example, "::To entries 1 and 2, I'd like to add...." (without quotes); or ":::To entries 1, 2, and 3, I'd like to add...." (without quotes).
  • If there are a large number of indents (generally 5 or 6), in the post above yours, you may begin your comment at the left side of the page by using the Outdent template. To do this, type "{{outdent}}"" or, for short, ""{{od}}" (without quotes) at the left side of the page immediately before typing your entry. For example: {{od}}In reply to the above, I believe that ...." (without quotes). This keeps the comments within a topic/section from becoming "squished" too far to the right of the page. Use your judgment when deciding whether or not to outdent. If your message will be short, you are less likely to need to outdent. If the messages above yours are also generally short, it may be reasonable to indent up to around 7 or 8 times (:::::::Begin comment or ::::::::Begin comment). However, if your message will be lengthy, or previous messages have been lengthy, then an outdent may be useful after only perhaps 4 levels. --JR (talk) 12:49, 30 November 2012 (GMT)

Replaced article section with the above. --JR (talk) 02:43, 5 December 2012 (GMT)

Minor Edits checkboxEdit

Hi, I'm new to editing and saw a mistake on the page dealing about Steel, so I felt to correct it. I had read that you should mark those kinds of edits as minor but I couldn't find the Minor Edit checkbox, where is it located on the editing page? Instead I said in the summary that it's a minor edit--81.225.78.221 08:06, 10 February 2013 (GMT)

It's right above the "Save page" button. Jo'Sakhar (talk) 08:16, 10 February 2013 (GMT)

But that's the edit summary type box, are they one and the same? --81.225.78.221 09:16, 10 February 2013 (GMT)

It's between the two.

See? Jo'Sakhar (talk) 09:34, 10 February 2013 (GMT)

Now I understand, thank you but it doesn't appear on my browser, too bad --81.225.78.221 11:04, 10 February 2013 (GMT)

It only appears for people using accounts. Mediawiki doesn't allow anonymous users to make minor edits as a matter of course. Something you might notice on wikipedia too. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 13:30, 10 February 2013 (GMT)

Okay, maybe I'll create an account then --81.225.78.221 10:33, 23 February 2013 (GMT)

Change default signature?Edit

Is there a direct way to change what the four ~'s converts to upon signing, or do you have to manually type out a non-standard signature each time? Schiffy (talk) 22:55, 20 February 2013 (GMT)

If you click the 'preferences' link at the top of the page you can change what is displayed using the signature box there. :) Jeancey (talk) 22:57, 20 February 2013 (GMT)

Got it working, thanks. The Third Sheogorath^{Talk to the Cheese} 00:38, 21 February 2013 (GMT)

What exactly can a link target and how to do that?Edit

I don't understand what exactly internal links can target besides pages. Some examples of working links are:

• Morrowind:Daedric_Tower_Shield#Daedric_Tower_Shield (List entry)
• Morrowind:Vivec_Redoran#Robbing_the_Redoran_Treasury (Level 4 Heading)

I'd like to link to the subsection starting with "The Lower Vault" (sadly just written bold, not a Level 5 Heading) in the section Robbing the Redoran Treasury (Level 4 Heading) on the Vivec Redoran Canton page but can't find out how (or if possible).

So what exactly can be linked to and how? — Unsigned comment by FeXoR (talk • contribs) at 14:44 on 19 August 2018

You can create an anchor anywhere on a page with the {{LE}} template. In this case you would put it around "The Lower Vault" so it looked like {{LE|The Lower Vault}}. Then you can link to it using the # notation. —Dillonn241 (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Ah, terrific, thanks! FeXoR (talk) 16:37, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

The Help:Links page and #Anchors section covers this. The first example isn't actually a working link, nor is it necessary to write it to create the right link. It is what appears in your address bar, but in reality the link and page is Morrowind:Base Armor#Daedric Tower Shield. This is because the Daedric Tower Shield page is a redirect, and it sends you to the link contained on that page, which is the one I've written above. All you need to do is write "[[Morrowind:Daedric Tower Shield|]]" and it will go to the same place. The only times you need to manually write an anchor (the part after the #) is when a redirect does not exist, or when a header is the same as the page name. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 17:37, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Yea, I was wondering about that and found out by try and error myself. Still thanks for the explanation and the help link! FeXoR (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Indenting Talk Page PostsEdit

(Moved from being a necropost reply to JR's 2012 "Proposed Revision" post)

Unsure why this does not follow the guidelines for indentention outlined by wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Indentation). Every other thread system (e.g. reddit, twitter) on the internet that I know of follows this guideline. That is, I comment directly underneath the comment I'm replying to, just one "level" lower (or one indentation greater). For example, my reply here should be done with a single colon. But according to you, it should be a double colon? The way wikipedia outlines this procedure makes it clear(er) who the commenter is replying to. Mush (talk) 01:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Mush. From what I've seen, UESP is open to replies like that, but it's not very common in practice. As an alternative, I have seen users use an @ sign. E.g., @Mush I agree with your point.

All in all, the out-of-order indents create more confusion, since replies are supposed to be toward the original poster. If a comment is different enough from the original topic to warrant its own separate response, it should probably become its own section. —Dillonn241 (talk) 06:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC)